Some time ago I decided I'd had enough of Vista and would go back to XP. After 2 BSODS and explorer crashing when I tried to rename a file, I decided now was the time.

Sounds easy... I disconected 3 of my four drives, partitioned and formatted my O/S drive, and started the XP install procedure. Hmmm, evertime I got to the part where I expected it to say 'Press any key to boot from disk...' it just went straight into setup again. Nothing I did to the drive with either formatting or partitioning would get past this. Clearly, Vista still had it's grubby little paws on this disk.

So, back to basics. Thankfully when I built this pc I kept a floppy drive... Out came my Windows98 boot disk and straight into DOS. From there I used my equally ancient Killdisk. It took an hour and a half for Killdisk to finish, but it took Vista and erased its ass. Vista is no more, it has ceased to be - it is an ex O/S.

XP installed as smooth as ever. So here I am, in an O/S which so far has no drivers or programs installed. I'll get to that later. Meanwhile I can stick two fingers up (in the form of a 'V') to Vista. Hasta la Vista Vista, as they say


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on Dec 30, 2008

I've had Vista since day 1, and i've never had any problems with it.

I'll be the first to admit driver support used to be shaky, and the was an initial performace drop on XP, but now, its stable, I have far less crashes than I did on XP, and the new memory learning features of Vista actually make programs load faster.

I do believe you have to have a system for it. I run, AMD Phenom 9850, 8Gb Ram, GTX 260, so i get fantastic speed on everything. But as an OS I love Vista, and i'll move on to 7 when it's out too.

I see an argument on similar scale to this in the flight sim community, between FS2004 and FSX, but even though the newer program has less support, and more bugs, its the future, and will be improved, whereas the older one will eventually be dropped.

on Dec 30, 2008

These test show that after Vista SP1 the performance is equal or even better than XP. I wouldn't be surprised if there are test showing the opposite, though.

 

Yes with XP sp3 and Vista sp1 there is a close call with xp edgeing out vista.. but vista is much slower on filetransfers except single file  filetransfer.. where it is much faster.. unpacking/extracting much slower... but vista will improve while xp probably wont... yet im hoping that win7 will be what vista should have been and what xp was for its predecessors... only time will tell

 

I run, AMD Phenom 9850, 8Gb Ram, GTX 260

That is not exactly your regular joe's computer and asking such a system upgrade is alot of cash just to have a OS run great.. well computer hardware will get alot better and soon well in (3-4years anyway) it will spit at vista as a fart in space....

on Dec 30, 2008

voidcore, i don't consider myself to be an ordinary computer user, either. on my rig, vista outperforms xp hands down. about upgrading rigs to run an os, people had to do it when xp was released, too. it happens every single time a new os is released. the argument of having to upgrade is mute. you always have to do it. if i still had my athlon 3200 with 2 gig of ram, i'd be running xp. actually, that rig is running xp but it's at my daughter's house .

regarding your statement to stay away from vista64.....well, you're wrong. i respect your opinion but i completely disagree with it. 64 bit is the way to go these days. unless you have an ancient piece of hardware like the canon scanner sitting on a shelf in my garage, you'll not have any problems finding drivers. with the price of memory these days, it's fairly cheap to upgrade to 4 and even 8 gigs of ram. heck, the reaper ram i use is on sale for 65 bucks on newegg today. i'm buying 4 sets of it for future use in client rigs.

anyway, some people who have tried vista just weren't happy wioth it and reverted to xp. fuzzy is one of those people. each person has his/her opinion and i respect that. i switched to vista ultimate 64 the day it was released and have not had a single unhappy moment with the os.

on Dec 30, 2008

voidcore, i don't consider myself to be an ordinary computer user, either. on my rig, vista outperforms xp hands down. about upgrading rigs to run an os, people had to do it when xp was released, too. it happens every single time a new os is released. the argument of having to upgrade is mute. you always have to do it. if i still had my athlon 3200 with 2 gig of ram, i'd be running xp. actually, that rig is running xp but it's at my daughter's house .

regarding your statement to stay away from vista64.....well, you're wrong. i respect your opinion but i completely disagree with it. 64 bit is the way to go these days. unless you have an ancient piece of hardware like the canon scanner sitting on a shelf in my garage, you'll not have any problems finding drivers. with the price of memory these days, it's fairly cheap to upgrade to 4 and even 8 gigs of ram. heck, the reaper ram i use is on sale for 65 bucks on newegg today. i'm buying 4 sets of it for future use in client rigs.

anyway, some people who have tried vista just weren't happy wioth it and reverted to xp. fuzzy is one of those people. each person has his/her opinion and i respect that. i switched to vista ultimate 64 the day it was released and have not had a single unhappy moment with the os.

64 bit will eventualy replace 32 bit,  but 64 bit and vista are 2 different things,   64 bit works fine,  only to bad old stuff cant be run on it

it's vista thats causing trouble, not 64 bit and after only a week i got fed up with it and returned to XP,  heard microsoft is working on something called windows 7, sure hope it's a complete makeover, and actually works smoothly unlike vista :/

on Dec 30, 2008

64 bit is the way to go these days.

64bit have been the way to go for quite a while.. but it have not been mainstream enough and badly supported.. im glad you dont have any problems as it is as you say the future but it will not be a every household thing until some year(s), when we can throw away 32bit completely.. and yes ddr2 is very cheap much cheaper than it have been for ram ever... ddr3 that is the future is not cheap... if you are going the ddr2 way for client rigs today when all new mobos only run ddr3 soon... you are going the wrong way in my opinion ddr2 good for today obsolete tomorrow... i Also switched to vista 64bit when it came and formatted my drive a month later, it may be so that it works alot better now then when it came as it should be... now im on 32bit Vista Ultimate have been for some months and i do feel it is more sluggish and moving large files and unpacking there is a notable differnce, need a RAM uppgrade from my 2GB DDR2 but.. why waste money on DDR2 when im planning on getting a new system with nehalem and ddr3

on Dec 30, 2008

voidcore, i don't consider myself to be an ordinary computer user, either. on my rig, vista outperforms xp hands down.

Of course it does. You've got more than 2 gigs of RAM. You literally need 64 bit Vista to even use your hardware. But more than 2 gigs is not the standard (nor useful except for non-gaming high intensity tasks) - and with 2 gigs, XP outperforms Vista.

on Dec 30, 2008

actually, i have 8.

on a side note, you should see this i7 rig i finished an hour ago. the client may have a difficult time getting me to deliver it tomorrow and i LOVE this Silverstone case!

on Dec 30, 2008

Silverstone make great cases a little overprice imo, thats why i have this inexpensive Lian li case (PC-A71B)

beside me

on Dec 30, 2008

yeah, i know what ya mean. i have a lian-li v1200b myself. it's a great case. the silverstone ft01-b/w is really a nicely crafted case, too. i've built 2 rigs using that case in the last few days and the more i see it, the more i like it. i like the interior being powder-coated. i can do without the window, tho.

on Apr 26, 2009

100th post.

 

Samurye..

on Apr 26, 2009

4 month old, dead thread.

Love those Ninja like reflexes...way to sneak up on the thread.   

on Apr 26, 2009

eh...what the heck?

i run server 2008. all the fun, none of the pain. and as far as start menu organization goes, most of my forays into the start menu ends where the instant search bar begins. that is damn cool-and screws me up every time i go for it on a non-vista machine. i do not miss xp

on Apr 26, 2009

CarGuy1
4 month old, dead thread.

Love those Ninja like reflexes...way to sneak up on the thread.   

You have to wait for a while, to make sure that nobody notices you, and then strike when they least expect it.  

 

Samurye.

on Apr 27, 2009

Ninja? More like Hong Kong Phooey...

on Apr 27, 2009

Thanks for info Mr. Spock

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