Published on August 13, 2009 By Fuzzy Logic In Personal Computing

I've just had a brush with numerous viruses, the first I've had in years. I was browsing some free software sites (can't remember which, I was just following links), when I got a warning about a dodgy web page. Next thing I know AVG is popping up with all sorts of messages about trojans and viruses. At this point my pc is locked solid, so, rather than repair the damage, I decide to restore from backup...

Shutdown Windows: seconds - I pressed the off button!

Search for Drive Image 7 disc: 2 minutes - it was buried under some papers...

Boot into Drive Image: 4 minutes

Restore image: 5 mins 55 secs

Boot into Windows: 50 secs

So, up and running again in next to no time. Shows the value of good backups

As the backup is a few days old, I've lost some game saves - but that is only because of Microsofts insistance that programmers store program info locally instead of with the game (I have my games on a seperate partition). Everything else is as it was.


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on Aug 13, 2009

I've been using the WOT (Web Of Trust) add-on in FF3.5+ and I've found it helpful to avoid sites like that.

http://www.mywot.com/

Of course it doesn't hurt that I have a full Acronis image from Sunday and a couple incrementals since.....

on Aug 13, 2009

kona0197
If you were running Linux or a Mac it never would have happend. Just saying...
Of course . . if he were running Linux or Mac he'd hae limited choice in games too.  [Sorry . . i couldn't help it. Back on topic now.]


Congrats on having a good back-up plan.

In all honesty, the most critical data on my PC are teh many photos of my family.  On extended family birthdays I'll often make DVDs of "this year in our life in pictures" to give as gifts.  It's a nice thought and a pretty great off-site storage plan. 

on Aug 13, 2009

Good for you-- as far as the game saves go though, can't you point your My docs folder to the other partition as well? I believe the games are saved within the my docs folder and if that entire directory points to the other partition (or drive) the the next time this happens, your saved games will be, well, saved as well.

 

on Aug 13, 2009

Kingpest
Good for you-- as far as the game saves go though, can't you point your My docs folder to the other partition as well? I believe the games are saved within the my docs folder and if that entire directory points to the other partition (or drive) the the next time this happens, your saved games will be, well, saved as well.

Yep that should work too. Some programs still mess up when they hard code to your c:\ drive but to be honest those programmers should be whacked with a morning star. A lot.

I prefer an external hard drive as the backup plan. It's easy and quick to connect and you have fast transfer speeds. Store it in a safe place though, having it next to your laptop/pc doesn't help you when a burglar comes in. He'll take the external hard drive too It will not help you if your house burns down though. There are online alternatives but they cost money and I'm not quite sure on privacy with the lesser knows companies. Still that might be the best option if the data is worth some money to you and you got a decent internet connection. You could even automate the process to make a backup every night at 12 pm.

on Aug 13, 2009

Good for you-- as far as the game saves go though, can't you point your My docs folder to the other partition as well? I believe the games are saved within the my docs folder and if that entire directory points to the other partition (or drive) the the next time this happens, your saved games will be, well, saved as well.

I'm still coming to terms with where Windows 7 likes to put stuff.

Bloody pain in the arse, really...

Remember, Fuzzy...there are only 2 types of computer users...[ignoring Linux trolls]...

Those who backup

and

Those who cry...

on Aug 13, 2009

I've not had a virus issue for the last 2 or 3 years. The only issues I've had

was faulty hard drives. I had 2 seagate 500 GB sata2 drives just die on me.

The only thing the drives did was make clicking noises. I rma'ed the drives

and got replacements. I also, have a Western Digital 250 GB seating on

my work bench. Its dead ... the system had a HD issue, myfriend call me saying

the system wouldn't boot up. I went to their home and the drive was making

clicking noises. So, I had to replace the drive and restored from a backup

on the system. I'm a big believer in having 2 hard drives in systems. One

for the OS and apps ... the second for backups,drivers and OS files ...

 

Basically .. knock on wood ... I still have 3 more of those 500 GB drives

in my main system. I hope I don't need to replace them ...

 

FYI ... Do backups ....

on Aug 13, 2009

Those who backup

and

Those who cry...

Indeed. I found that out ten years ago when I lost all my photos, a few of which I can never get back. Since then I've used various incarnations of Drive Image and SyncBack + at least 4 drives.

I'm surprised fuzzy, an open invitation to disaster

I know, but I was looking for something...

on Aug 13, 2009

Since then I've used various incarnations of Drive Image and SyncBack + at least 4 drives.

Ditto...

on Aug 13, 2009

Have you concidered using a Virtual PC session to surf the web? It's nice to have the ability to close out the session and not save the changes, which greatly minimizes your chance of becoming infected.

on Aug 13, 2009

Good for you-- as far as the game saves go though, can't you point your My docs folder to the other partition as well? I believe the games are saved within the my docs folder and if that entire directory points to the other partition (or drive) the the next time this happens, your saved games will be, well, saved as well.

I have MyDocuments on another drive. The games, however, are stored in Documents and Settings > username > Local Settings > Application Data, which cannot be moved.

It's also a pain for anyone who doesn't know how to manage folders and doesn't know how to put custom maps in there...

Have you concidered using a Virtual PC session to surf the web? It's nice to have the ability to close out the session and not save the changes, which greatly minimizes your chance of becoming infected.

Bit too much for something which is once in a blue moon. My browsing is usually safe as is. Besides, the backup option is favourite.

on Aug 13, 2009


Remember, Fuzzy...there are only 2 types of computer users...[ignoring Linux trolls]...

Those who backup

and

Those who cry...

I am a Linux trolls too... but i use XP pro and Vista along with Linux and Open Solaris...

In my case, backup is not a option... almost 10TB of data will take too much time for backup or restore in case of problem...

But i don't cry... i have a raid system, enable the non execute bit in the bios, lock in read only drive used for data storage, and use a good anti virus in heuristic mode, don't allow activeX, no attachment in e-mail allowed ( unless the guy is in my trusted list ), etc...

For the Linux troll people, use a antivirus too... you don't risk a lot but Linux can be a healthy host for windows virus... so, if you don't wish that you windows friend kill you, clean regulary your system...

Zubaz, i have a very good game who run with Linux and it is enough for me... it is called Sins of Solar Empire

About anti virus, it is year that i have stop with AVG... for now, i am happy with AVAST...

on Aug 13, 2009

Why not use a NAS for that much data?

on Aug 13, 2009

Correct me if i'm wrong,would it have still happened if

A:Used limited user account instead of Admin

B: Change the actual name "admin" account to another name

C: Used some decent realtime scanners that block any attermpt for install of anything including unidentified software when in admin mode i.e spywareterminater ..a shamless plug right there for one of my fav apps when HIPS is activated nothing installs without me knowing about it or without my permission

D: Ran daily or weekly backup images of My Docs or Docs & Settings or whatever folder ,you could've also have used any number of free hdd scanners like recuva,undelete plus etc to retrieve any misplaced data  you needed back & most probably still can,or partitionfindandmount (free but limited to 512kb recovery speed unless bought), to scan sectors for a bit more intensive data recovery or getdataback which is only free to try but man it works great

E:Using linux

F:Stopped surf'n pron site...nough said..lmao

 

on Aug 13, 2009

Remember, Fuzzy...there are only 2 types of computer users...[ignoring Linux trolls]...

Those who backup

and

Those who cry...

 

Girly man!  You're supposed to be amused at your misfortune.

on Aug 13, 2009

Correct me if i'm wrong,would it have still happened if

A:Used limited user account instead of Admin

Depends on the malware.

B: Change the actual name "admin" account to another name

I doubt any malware is stupid enough to hard code account names into them.

C: Used some decent realtime scanners that block any attermpt for install of anything including unidentified software when in admin mode i.e spywareterminater ..a shamless plug right there for one of my fav apps when HIPS is activated nothing installs without me knowing about it or without my permission

As you could have read he did. Using a different one, as the one you mentioned, is trivial as no scanner is 100% malware proof, not even your favorite.

D: Ran daily or weekly backup images of My Docs or Docs & Settings or whatever folder ,you could've also have used any number of free hdd scanners like recuva,undelete plus etc to retrieve any misplaced data  you needed back & most probably still can,or partitionfindandmount (free but limited to 512kb recovery speed unless bought), to scan sectors for a bit more intensive data recovery or getdataback which is only free to try but man it works great

As you can read he also made backups. He only lost a few day's worth. And in my experience its faster to just replay those games up till where you were than to use a recovery program to recover the save games

E:Using linux

Probably, but he would also not have been able to play the games in the first place (depending on the game in question)

Stopped surf'n pron site...nough said..lmao

Stop making insane demands! *cry* Don't blame the pron

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