Some time ago I decided I'd had enough of Vista and would go back to XP. After 2 BSODS and explorer crashing when I tried to rename a file, I decided now was the time.

Sounds easy... I disconected 3 of my four drives, partitioned and formatted my O/S drive, and started the XP install procedure. Hmmm, evertime I got to the part where I expected it to say 'Press any key to boot from disk...' it just went straight into setup again. Nothing I did to the drive with either formatting or partitioning would get past this. Clearly, Vista still had it's grubby little paws on this disk.

So, back to basics. Thankfully when I built this pc I kept a floppy drive... Out came my Windows98 boot disk and straight into DOS. From there I used my equally ancient Killdisk. It took an hour and a half for Killdisk to finish, but it took Vista and erased its ass. Vista is no more, it has ceased to be - it is an ex O/S.

XP installed as smooth as ever. So here I am, in an O/S which so far has no drivers or programs installed. I'll get to that later. Meanwhile I can stick two fingers up (in the form of a 'V') to Vista. Hasta la Vista Vista, as they say


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on Dec 07, 2008

Some time ago I decided I'd had enough of Vista and would go back to XP. After 2 BSODS and explorer crashing when I tried to rename a file, I decided now was the time.

I haven't had a BSOD for quite some time; I'd guess a driver is to blame. I've had my share of BSODs in XP anyways, so I'm not sure XP is all that different in that regard.

But I guess that doesn't matter now that you've made the switch. I plan on sticking with Vista myself. It has worked well for me.

Oh, and games like UT2004 (a favourite of mine) romps along at 2-300 fps instead of the miserly 75-80 Vista can manage.

As if going above your monitor's refresh rate is going to make any difference. Your monitor can't draw fast enough to keep up with 300 fps.

Dunno why it would slow down so much, though - is this with the latest drivers?

Are you sure you want to shutdown the computer?

This one I count as very helpful because I've had many a program try to shutdown my computer without my permission .

Once all of the software you want is installed, those prompts pretty much go away anyways.

Never used the Start menu much in either Vista or XP, so changes to it really don't bother me that much. Someday they'll make it useful. I personally don't see how it's any sort of improvement over Windows 3, and to this day I have a set of folders on my desktop instead of using the Start menu.

on Dec 07, 2008

In short - whenever I see thread like this I remember old days and feel with you all

In short, if you'd like to buy me OS-X, I'll happily use it (with Bootcamp for XP), and in a few years we can reminisce about the good old days and feel for them all together

Sound like a plan? 

on Dec 07, 2008

I've never BSOD'd in Vista and I don't think I ever did in XP either but when I had(shudder) ME, it was a daily occurrence.

Oh, yeah.  I have never had a problem with XP, but ME... man.  I heard that Bill Gates himself said that that was the worst OS that Microsoft had ever made.

My parents had Vista for awhile, but went back to XP because the Vista media center program was considerably less user-friendly (you couldn't play movies off your hard drive, I believe was one of the issues they had).

on Dec 07, 2008

Ok here's the problem  I see in this discussion:

Most people are comparing their set-in, heavely optimized, completely personalized, correctly installed XP rigs with their out-of-the-box Vista machines.

 

Unless you got your XP rig in the bast 18 months or so, you had to do about as much (or actually more most of the times), to get it working well as you do with Vista.

And  for XP  I've done about 20 reinstalls(forced, not counting optional ones where I was tinkering and stuff)  in its lifetime, resulting form BSODs, taskbar hangs, >>>>MALWARE<<<< (the unprovoked kind, mind you) etc, etc, etc... most in the first 2 years of release

 

WIth Vista?Since getting it a year ago: NO reinstalls so far, NO taskbar hangs, NO BSOD(aside from the one time I did something stupid istalling gfx driver... and yes the whole GFX issue was a pain) , NO malware, great file management and backup capabilites, great background service prioratization, and so on.

...

on Dec 07, 2008

irrnt
Ok here's the problem  I see in this discussion:

Most people are comparing their set-in, heavely optimized, completely personalized, correctly installed XP rigs with their out-of-the-box Vista machines.

 

Unless you got your XP rig in the bast 18 months or so, you had to do about as much, and many times more, to get it working well as you do with Vista.

And XP, I've done about 20, reinstalls in its lifetime, resulting form BSODs, taskbar hangs, >>>>MALWARE<<<< (the unprovoked kind, mind you) etc, etc, etc... most in the first 2 years of release

 

WIth Vista?Since getting it a year ago: NO reinstalls so far, NO taskbar hangs, NO BSOD(aside from the one time I did something stupid istalling gfx driver) , NO malware, great file management and backup capabilites, great background service prioratization, and so on.

...

Actually both my machines are Out of the Box installs.

My desktop is a refurbished Compaq Presario AMD 3400+ that has had XP Home preinstalled

My laptop is a refurbished HP Pavillion AMD Turion 64x2 that has Vista Home Premium

Both machines have 2gb of RAM. Desktop has a better graphics card.

My XP machine is a far better experience ( my laptop is 'good enough' and I'm having issues with kubuntu on it so for now Vista stays )

Oh and the virus issue is moot. I had *one* malware incident on XP and that was me installing a .exe for a Trillian skin off of Customize.org. Self inflicted. And I don't go to that site anymore. Lesson learned.

BTW , OSX isn't worth becoming the 'I'm a Mac ' from those assinine Apple ads .

 

on Dec 07, 2008

not on 4gig & quad core 9800GT G-Card no pup here start menu is better on Vista come on

on Dec 07, 2008

 Fuzzy will soon grow fatigued with XP and downgrade to Win2000

on Dec 07, 2008

Anthony R lol

on Dec 07, 2008

PuterDudeJim
And UAC is driving me nuts!!! I know how to turn it off, but then I have nag screens, popup warnings, etc.
Open Security Center and disable notifications and those go away.

on Dec 07, 2008

Good for you, not a fan of vista myself, but anyone else wanting to go back, use the xp disk and run fix mbr.  Vista has an entirely different boot loader and it needs to be changed before you can load xp.  Just a note to save others from the hassle Fuzzy encountered.

on Dec 07, 2008

I guess I've been at this too long. I remember the battles between MSDOS and DRDOS. I was there at the birth of OS2 and fought hard to keep it going. In short I've seen and worked with EVERY OS Microsoft has put out. Vista is no worse or buggier(new word) than the others. Its new driver model is problematic with some hardware and software due to lack of developer support, but I've seen that every time. These new OS's always seem to require time to mature (read catch on). Hopefully Win 7 will be a more developed(read supported by drivers) Vista and thus be more compatible with the real world. Personally, I can't use it because it isn't supported by my VPN vendor. This is the VPNs' fault, not Microsofts'.  The UAC is however a moronic idea and better disappear in Win 7 or that won't interest me either. Security is one thing. Treating ALL USERS like idiots is another. Just a thought...

on Dec 07, 2008

Fuzzy,

 

I also remain more of a fan of XP then Vista. Really, the only reason I even tried Vista was for the "bells and whistles" of a newer OS. I have found XP to be the most stable of MS operating systems for my use. We'll see what they offer next and how it compares, but until then I will keep my XP.

on Dec 07, 2008

I got a vista based PC here. For me it depends on the hardware I run it on. At work I run it on a dual core Pentium D, 4Gb ram single 500Gb HDD and a geforce 7 based card with 512Mb VRAM. so far its performance has been reasonable but has had less issues than XP.

My home PC I run vista as well this is on a quadcore, 8Gb ram, 6 different size HDDs each in sets of 2 on raid0 (I do have backups in place on a nas box using raid5), XFI Fata1ty and a Geforce 9600T 512Mb.

Ever since the Performance patches vista has improved as well as constant driver updates. I have had vista over a year now and not had a single issue and is running vista once.

I have incountered one blue screen on vista but this was due a driver included in a product we were trying out at work and nothing to do with vista at all. Most issues I seen with vista have always been hardware releated or third party and not the OS it's self.

on Dec 07, 2008

- not a single crash

- not a single virus

- not a single trojan or other bs file

Sounds just like my experience with Vista.

 

100% hassle free and no problems.

 

Heck I haven't had a crash since Win98.

I'll be hanging on to Vista untill I can get my hands on W7.

on Dec 07, 2008

Sounds just like my experience with Vista.

lol same...you have to wonder what some people get up to on their computers...

I'm running both atm and quite frankly barely notice the difference, except that the Vista machine seems not to care when I stack too many browsers. If it wasn't for that though, I would likely forget that they're different at all (they seemed different at first, but I have since decided this was mostly superficial). Maybe learning new stuff just rattles the ol' biosecurity circuit.

Congratulations on your switch though, I hope it all goes well.

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